[frers-list]tweakers or guys?

Edgar Smith frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:35:07 +0000


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Pachyderm uses sheets and guys, no twings/tweekers. We have ultra-light she=
ets which we use all the time. I think the New England Ropes variety we use=
 is called flight-line, I had an even lighter variety before but don't know=
 what it was. I also have heavy sheets aboard just in case it is really sto=
rmy. I installed a trigger tripped end on the pole that makes the jibes fas=
ter, but the pole is not rigged with bridles so we wouldn't be able end for=
 end with the current set-up. Like Wolverine, we remove and replace the laz=
y-guy if the wind goes really soft. We have a .5 chute and I have not seen =
the need to put on a lighter sheet than the flight-line in any conditions. =
In heavy air we sometime sheet using the lazy-guy to help stabilize the chu=
te and dampen the rock and rolling but we leave the sheet attached and take=
 it back up for jibes.

I used twings and end-for-ended on my previous boat, a J-29, but the chute =
on the Frers 33 is big enough with our smallish foredeck crew that it could=
 get tough to re-attach the pole to the mast on a windier day. I agree with=
 Dave that doing the same maneuver every time is also an advantage.

With a dip-pole set-up, it takes a little more time to set-up for the jibe =
(running the lazy guy forward and raising the inboard end for the dip), but=
 it as fast and more controlled once you are ready. We don't jibe perfectly=
 every time, but it never really goes haywire either.

I also found the twing system on my J-29 was hard on the stanchion bases, s=
ince the twinged sheet didn't run perfectly fair especially when it didn't =
get set fully, stressing the stanchion. Having the lazy guy is also great f=
or forward hatch douses, but having to let the extra lazy sheet run can slo=
w down the douse if it hangs up (usually because of a "foot-cleat" in the c=
ockpit).

Edgar Smith
Pachyderm
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10pt;">Pachyderm uses sheets and guys, no twings/tweekers. We have ultra-li=
ght sheets which we use all the time. I think the New England Ropes variety=
 we use is called flight-line, I had
 an even lighter variety before but don't know what it was. I also have hea=
vy sheets aboard just in case it is really stormy. I installed a trigger tr=
ipped end on the pole that makes the jibes faster, but the pole is not rigg=
ed with bridles so we wouldn't be
 able end for end with the current set-up. Like Wolverine, we remove and re=
place the lazy-guy if the wind goes really soft. We have a .5 chute and I h=
ave not seen the need to put on a lighter sheet than the flight-line in any=
 conditions. In heavy air we sometime
 sheet using the lazy-guy to help stabilize the chute and dampen the rock a=
nd rolling but we leave the sheet attached and take it back up for jibes.
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I used twings and end-for-ended on my previous boat, a J-29, but the chute =
on the Frers 33 is big enough with our smallish foredeck crew that it could=
 get tough to re-attach the pole to the mast on a windier day. I agree with=
 Dave that doing the same maneuver
 every time is also an advantage.<br>
<br>
With a dip-pole set-up, it takes a little more time to set-up for the jibe =
(running the lazy guy forward and raising the inboard end for the dip), but=
 it as fast and more controlled once you are ready. We don't jibe perfectly=
 every time, but it never really
 goes haywire either. <br>
<br>
I also found the twing system on my J-29 was hard on the stanchion bases, s=
ince the twinged sheet didn't run perfectly fair especially when it didn't =
get set fully, stressing the stanchion. Having the lazy guy is also great f=
or forward hatch douses, but having
 to let the extra lazy sheet run can slow down the douse if it hangs up (us=
ually because of a &quot;foot-cleat&quot; in the cockpit).<br>
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Edgar Smith<br>
Pachyderm<br>
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