[frers-list]Rudder tube on Wheel Equipped Frers 33
Neal Melanson
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:51:40 -0400
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I do not think its a problem but here is a thought...
How about glueing an oil seal to the top of the lower tube. The glue needs
a little flex so the post can still wiggle in the shaft as it works in the
boat. 4200?
Neal Melanson
Vapor Trail - still for sale
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Rod Stright <StrightR@eastlink.ca> wrote:
> We do take in some water when it=E2=80=99s rough and the boat is listed o=
ver and
> pitching, not a big deal but a solution would be good. I have asked the
> pros. And if I get an answer I=E2=80=99ll pass it on.
>
>
>
> Rod
>
>
>
> *From:* frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:
> frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave Nauber
> *Sent:* October-24-14 8:54 AM
> *To:* frers-list@lists.frers33.com
> *Subject:* RE: [frers-list]Rudder tube on Wheel Equipped Frers 33
>
>
>
> Wolverine was built in 1987 and although I don=E2=80=99t know what if any
> differences there are in this regard among the boats, we do take seawater
> around the rudderpost when surfing in big following seas. The water runs
> under the engine and into the bilge where it gets pumped back overboard. =
I
> would like a solution to the problem so if anyone has a good recommendati=
on
> I am all ears. Thanks.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> *David Nauber*
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> *From:* frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [
> mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
> <frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com>] *On Behalf Of *Rod Stright
> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 7:16 AM
> *To:* frers-list@lists.frers33.com
> *Subject:* RE: [frers-list]Rudder tube on Wheel Equipped Frers 33
>
>
>
> Thanks Art. I think the later boats the quadrant and top of the lower
> rudder post is higher in the boat. Perhaps it was a modification to the
> original design or they felt it was a concern earlier and then later
> discovered it wasn=E2=80=99t.
>
>
>
> *From:* frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [
> mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
> <frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com>] *On Behalf Of *Arthur Kelley
> *Sent:* October-24-14 7:45 AM
> *To:* frers-list@lists.frers33.com
> *Subject:* Re: [frers-list]Rudder tube on Wheel Equipped Frers 33
>
>
>
> Nothing on Brilliant either. The clearance between the rudder shaft and
> the bushing is extremely small so in the worst case should not result in =
a
> significant leak, and the top of the lower tube is well above water level
> so should never be a concern. Even when you lay the boat on its side the
> rudder post will be out of the water!
>
> Art
>
>
> On Oct 23, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Rod Stright <StrightR@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
>
>
> Just checking to see what arrangements you have on the rudder tube. I
> have removed my rudder and the tube looks in good shape. There is the
> space between the lower tube and the upper tube to allow the quadrant
> (approximately 4 =E2=80=93 5=E2=80=9D). On Equinox there is nothing unde=
r the quadrant (in
> or around the upper end of the lower tube) to prevent water from coning
> into the boat. Does anyone have something there. If so what?
>
>
>
> Rod Stright
>
> Equinox
>
>
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Neal Melanson
89 Central St.
Rowley Ma. 01969
978 948 7189
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I do not think its a problem but here is a thought...<div>=
<br></div><div>How about glueing an oil seal to the top of the lower tube.=
=C2=A0 The glue needs a little flex so the post can still wiggle in the sha=
ft as it works in the boat. =C2=A04200? =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Nea=
l Melanson=C2=A0</div><div>Vapor Trail - still for sale</div></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 1=
0:25 AM, Rod Stright <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:StrightR@eastl=
ink.ca" target=3D"_blank">StrightR@eastlink.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-CA" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#=
954F72"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">We do tak=
e in some water when it=E2=80=99s rough and the boat is listed over and pit=
ching, not a big deal but a solution would be good.=C2=A0 I have asked the =
pros. And if I get an answer I=E2=80=99ll pass it on.<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">Rod<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid =
#e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> <a href=3D"mailto:frers-=
list-admin@lists.frers33.com" target=3D"_blank">frers-list-admin@lists.frer=
s33.com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </=
b>Dave Nauber<br><b>Sent:</b> October-24-14 8:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=
=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com" target=3D"_blank">frers-list@lists=
.frers33.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [frers-list]Rudder tube on Wheel Eq=
uipped Frers 33<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"color:#1f497d">Wolverine was built in 1987 and although I don=E2=80=99t=
know what if any differences there are in this regard among the boats, we =
do take seawater around the rudderpost when surfing in big following seas. =
The water runs under the engine and into the bilge where it gets pumped bac=
k overboard. I would like a solution to the problem so if anyone has a good=
recommendation I am all ears. Thanks.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1f4=
97d">Dave<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-U=
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0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0=
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"> <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" target=3D"_blank">=
frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@=
lists.frers33.com" target=3D"_blank">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.=
com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rod Stright<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 24=
, 2014 7:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com=
" target=3D"_blank">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE:=
[frers-list]Rudder tube on Wheel Equipped Frers 33<u></u><u></u></span></p=
></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">Thanks Ar=
t.=C2=A0 I think the later boats the quadrant and top of the lower rudder p=
ost is higher in the boat.=C2=A0 Perhaps it was a modification to the origi=
nal design or they felt it was a concern earlier and then later discovered =
it wasn=E2=80=99t.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"bord=
er:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" target=3D"_blank">f=
rers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@l=
ists.frers33.com" target=3D"_blank">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.c=
om</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Arthur Kelley<br><b>Sent:</b> October-24-14 7:4=
5 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com" target=
=3D"_blank">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [frers-=
list]Rudder tube on Wheel Equipped Frers 33<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
/div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">Nothing on Brilliant either. The clearance between the rudder shaft an=
d the bushing is extremely small so in the worst case should not result in =
a significant leak, and the top of the lower tube is well above water level=
so should never be a concern. Even when you lay the boat on its side the r=
udder post will be out of the water!<br><br>Art<span style=3D"font-size:12.=
0pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"ma=
rgin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Oct 23, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Rod Stright <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:StrightR@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_blank">StrightR@eastlink.ca</=
a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;=
margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Guys,<u></u><u></u></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Just =
checking to see what arrangements you have on the rudder tube.=C2=A0 I have=
removed my rudder and the tube looks in good shape.=C2=A0 There is the spa=
ce between the lower tube and the upper tube to allow the quadrant (approxi=
mately 4 =E2=80=93 5=E2=80=9D).=C2=A0 On Equinox there is nothing under the=
quadrant (in or around the upper end of the lower tube) to prevent water f=
rom coning into the boat.=C2=A0 Does anyone have something there.=C2=A0 If =
so what?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">Rod Stright<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Eq=
uinox<u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><b=
r><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div>Neal Melanson</div><div>89 C=
entral St.</div><div>Rowley Ma. 01969</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>978 948 71=
89</div>
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