[frers-list]Rudder issue help
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If the post is good, what do you think at worst the cost of fixing the
rudder?
Oz.
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 1:48 PM, <frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com> wrote:
> It most likely had gotten water in it and froze. Remove the rudder so that
> it can be inspected more thoroughly, check the rudder post to see how much
> corrosion there is, some of the boats have had to replace the rudder
> because of bad corrosion. If the post is good have a qualified person
> investigate the crack to see how far it goes, it can be repaired they were
> built in halves. Hope this helps for starters.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 6:13 AM, frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> I moved out of the US and put Relentless on the hard 2 years ago.
> I had left the boat in the water at the yard and did not get a chance to
> look underside when the yard put her up on hard.
> Recently my friend went to see the boat and told me that there is a crack
> in the rudder, picture attached.
> Since i am not there to inspect and check it out myself i am not sure why
> this happened.
>
> Is this typical?
> Has anyone else had the same problem?
> And how much would it cost to fix it professionally?
>
> Thank you.
> Oz.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 4:20 PM, <frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We had about 1/4 inch play in wheel on Persistence as well. Turned out
>> it was because there was play at the key. I used a piece of pastic as a
>> shim and problem has been gone for the past two seasons
>>
>> Mike
>> Persistence
>> Halifax
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists
>> .frers33.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 6:07 PM
>> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
>> Subject: RE: [frers-list]Rudder issue help
>>
>> I have the same Edson rack-and-pinion steering with the same slap. Not
>> related to the rudder itself - just cleaned that up again last spring.
>>
>> There is an adjustment in the steering gear, but I was told it was
>> complicated, so Edson suggested sending it to them. I have not been in the
>> mood to pull that out and ship the whole pedestal, so it continues to bang
>> around. If you figure out a better answer, let me know.
>>
>> Art Kelley
>> Brilliant
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
>> [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 7:11 PM
>> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
>> Subject: Re: [frers-list]Rudder issue help
>>
>> Hi Rod!
>>
>> Nice to hear from you!
>>
>> It's on the hard in Montreal, & I had the cradle put up on blocks at
>> haulout to be sure I could get the rudder out.
>>
>> Workin in Texas until end of March, but would have to wait for the
>> weather to break up there before dropping it anyway.
>>
>> Just tryin to get a head start on parts & understanding the process
>> beforehand.
>>
>> The pedestal has Edson on it. When I looked at the gears and bearings
>> last year, there was no visible wear.
>>
>> Enjoy NZ! Summer down there!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Bill Thompson
>> d'Ad lib
>> 514 942-6709
>>
>> > On Mar 3, 2017, at 5:59 PM, frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Bill,
>> >
>> > I'm in New Zealand at the moment but will respond when I am back in
>> Halifax next week. I redid the rudder a year ago and just removed the
>> pedestal this winter. Thought it was Edson but it was Yacht Specialities
>> looks similar but very different. Is you boat in Montreal or Florida. I
>> would recommend dropping the rudder and have a look.
>> >
>> > Rod
>> > Equinox
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Mar 4, 2017, at 10:47 AM, frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi y'all (from Texas temporarily),
>> >>
>> >> Symptoms:
>> >> 1. Boat on the hard, if I grab the rudder and try to move it - not
>> >> turn
>> it - move it, it has a little bit of wiggle, mostly fore-and-aft - maybe
>> 1/4" at the bottom of the rudder.
>> >>
>> >> I'm thinking this may be the teflon sleeve/bearing that I have read
>> about. If so, where can U buy one?
>> >>
>> >> Issue 2:
>> >>
>> >> I don't know if this is related to 1 or not, but would like to know.
>> >>
>> >> OK. My steering pedestal is an Edson, rack and pinion unit. There is
>> about 1/4" play in the movement of the wheel. At the dock, if it's windy
>> with some harbour chop, if I lock it, it bangs a bit.
>> >>
>> >> I have had the pedestal apart and found nothing.
>> >>
>> >> Is this related to the movement in the rudder post?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for your help,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Bill Thompson
>> >> d'Ad lib
>> >> Montreal
>> >> 514 942-6709
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If the post is good, what do you think at worst the cost o=
f fixing the rudder?<div>Oz.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div=
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 1:48 PM, <span dir=3D"ltr">=
<<a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>It most likely had gotten water in =
it and froze. Remove the rudder so that it can be inspected more thoroughly=
, check the rudder post to see how much corrosion there is, some of the boa=
ts have had to replace the rudder because of bad corrosion. If the post is =
good have a qualified person investigate the crack to see how far it goes, =
it can be repaired they were built in halves. Hope this helps for starters.=
<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On Apr 13,=
2017, at 6:13 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">frers-list-admin@lists.<wbr>frers33.com</a> wrote:<br><br><=
/div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi everyone,<div>I mov=
ed out of the US and put Relentless on the hard 2 years ago.=C2=A0</div><di=
v>I had left the boat in the water at the yard and did not get a chance to =
look underside when the yard put her up on hard.=C2=A0</div><div>Recently m=
y friend went to see the boat and told me that there is a crack in the rudd=
er, picture attached.</div><div>Since i am not there to inspect and check i=
t out myself i am not sure why this happened.</div><div><br></div><div>Is t=
his typical?=C2=A0</div><div>Has anyone else had the same problem?=C2=A0</d=
iv><div>And how much would it cost to fix it professionally?</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Thank you.</div><div>Oz.</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 4:20=
PM, <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers3=
3.com" target=3D"_blank">frers-list-admin@lists.<wbr>frers33.com</a>></s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">We had about 1/4 inch play in=
wheel on Persistence as well.=C2=A0 Turned out it was because there was pl=
ay at the key.=C2=A0 I used a piece of pastic as a shim and problem has bee=
n gone for the past two seasons<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
Persistence<br>
Halifax<br>
<span class=3D"m_-2784048336865882148im m_-2784048336865882148HOEnZb"><br>
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From: <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33<wbr>.com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:fr=
ers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" target=3D"_blank">frers-list-admin@lists<=
wbr>.frers33.com</a>]<br>
</span><div class=3D"m_-2784048336865882148HOEnZb"><div class=3D"m_-2784048=
336865882148h5">Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 6:07 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com" target=3D"_blank">frers=
-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br>
Subject: RE: [frers-list]Rudder issue help<br>
<br>
I have the same Edson rack-and-pinion steering with the same slap.=C2=A0 No=
t related to the rudder itself - just cleaned that up again last spring.<br=
>
<br>
There is an adjustment in the steering gear, but I was told it was complica=
ted, so Edson suggested sending it to them.=C2=A0 I have not been in the mo=
od to pull that out and ship the whole pedestal, so it continues to bang ar=
ound.=C2=A0 If you figure out a better answer, let me know.<br>
<br>
Art Kelley<br>
Brilliant<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33<wbr>.com</a><br>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">frers-list-admin@lists<wbr>.frers33.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 7:11 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com" target=3D"_blank">frers=
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Subject: Re: [frers-list]Rudder issue help<br>
<br>
Hi Rod!<br>
<br>
Nice to hear from you!<br>
<br>
It's on the hard in Montreal, & I had the cradle put up on blocks a=
t haulout to be sure I could get the rudder out.<br>
<br>
Workin in Texas until end of March, but would have to wait for the weather =
to break up there before dropping it anyway.<br>
<br>
Just tryin to get a head start on parts & understanding the process bef=
orehand.<br>
<br>
The pedestal has Edson on it. When I looked at the gears and bearings last =
year, there was no visible wear.<br>
<br>
Enjoy NZ! Summer down there!<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Bill Thompson<br>
d'Ad lib<br>
<a href=3D"tel:514%20942-6709" value=3D"+15149426709" target=3D"_blank">514=
942-6709</a><br>
<br>
> On Mar 3, 2017, at 5:59 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.f=
rers33.com" target=3D"_blank">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33<wbr>.com</a> w=
rote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Bill,<br>
><br>
> I'm in New Zealand at the moment but will respond when I am back i=
n<br>
Halifax next week.=C2=A0 I redid the rudder a year ago and just removed the=
pedestal this winter.=C2=A0 Thought it was Edson but it was Yacht Speciali=
ties looks similar but very different.=C2=A0 Is you boat in Montreal or Flo=
rida.=C2=A0 I would recommend dropping the rudder and have a look.<br>
><br>
> Rod<br>
> Equinox<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
><br>
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 10:47 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@li=
sts.frers33.com" target=3D"_blank">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33<wbr>.com<=
/a> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi y'all (from Texas temporarily),<br>
>><br>
>> Symptoms:<br>
>> 1. Boat on the hard, if I grab the rudder and try to move it - not=
<br>
>> turn<br>
it - move it, it has a little bit of wiggle, mostly fore-and-aft - maybe 1/=
4" at the bottom of the rudder.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm thinking this may be the teflon sleeve/bearing that I have=
read<br>
about. If so, where can U buy one?<br>
>><br>
>> Issue 2:<br>
>><br>
>> I don't know if this is related to 1 or not, but would like to=
know.<br>
>><br>
>> OK. My steering pedestal is an Edson, rack and pinion unit. There =
is<br>
about 1/4" play in the movement of the wheel. At the dock, if it's=
windy with some harbour chop, if I lock it, it bangs a bit.<br>
>><br>
>> I have had the pedestal apart and found nothing.<br>
>><br>
>> Is this related to the movement in the rudder post?<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you for your help,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Bill Thompson<br>
>> d'Ad lib<br>
>> Montreal<br>
>> <a href=3D"tel:514%20942-6709" value=3D"+15149426709" target=3D"_b=
lank">514 942-6709</a><br>
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