[frers-list]Re: Rudder issues
Brian Higgins
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Tue, 25 Jun 2019 14:38:47 +0000
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Thanks. Pulled the upper bearing assembly apart last night, it shows sign=
s of the bushing being worn, I've got a small area on port and starboard wh=
ere the bushing is worn enough the bronze lip at the bottom has been in con=
tact with the rudder shaft, making some calls today about getting a new bus=
hing made for it. There are signs of dirt that got down between from the =
cockpit having worn grooves inside there too, so that probably contributed =
to the bushing wearing.
We put lithium Grease between the bushing and the post (had a friend from N=
orwalk Cove marina give a hand, his advice, and what they put on every Rudd=
er post they reassemble).
Also of note, on advice of several mechanics and other marine industry peop=
le, I did partially go against the common wisdom of no grease, I put lewmar=
gear Grease (winch rebuild Grease) in the post, since it's known for plast=
ic compatibility and doesn't gunk & clog up. TIme will tell if I regret do=
ing it, but so far it made a huge (and I mean really huge) difference in th=
e wheel.
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From: Jerry Black <jcblack099@aol.com>
Date: 6/25/19 10:05 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Cc: Brian Higgins <brian@sailingit.com>
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Re: Rudder issues
Have Dawn, will lube. Thanks, the zerc fitting fooled me into thinking grea=
se ws the answer.
Jerry Black
Pelirrojas
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From: Edgar Smith <Edgar@geomatrixproductions.com>
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Subject: [frers-list]Re: Rudder issues
There is likely some corrosion and pitting on the rudder post that may be a=
factor. I can=92t say if you have a worn bearing , but we had a similar pr=
oblem that was just swelling ad Bob described. On Pachyderm, I lubricate th=
e rudder post around the rudder cap in the cockpit and into the top of the =
tube under the quadrant with dawn dish soap so that it oozes down the post =
and into the bushing. I have a flexible straw e-taped onto the bottle so I =
can reach past the quadrant by crawling in through the lazarette. Our old b=
oatyard had lubricated it with grease one year and caused the nylon bushing=
s to swell and the rudder post bound and squeaked very badly, especially un=
der load. Letting the dish soap pour down and some rinsing with a hose seem=
ed to remove the grease and it hasn=92t been a problem since. It still sque=
aks slightly under load but I haven=92t soaped it yet this season. The bush=
ings are designed to be self-lubricating. I=92m not sure if my picture will=
come through on the discussion list, But it shows the straw taped to the d=
awn soap bottle needed to get soap in past the quadrant..
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Pachyderm
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<div>Thanks. Pulled the upper bearing assembly apart last night=
, it shows signs of the bushing being worn, I've got a small area on port a=
nd starboard where the bushing is worn enough the bronze lip at the bottom =
has been in contact with the rudder shaft,
making some calls today about getting a new bushing made for it. &nb=
sp;There are signs of dirt that got down between from the cockpit having wo=
rn grooves inside there too, so that probably contributed to the bushing we=
aring. </div>
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<div>We put lithium Grease between the bushing and the post (had a friend f=
rom Norwalk Cove marina give a hand, his advice, and what they put on every=
Rudder post they reassemble). </div>
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</div>
<div>Also of note, on advice of several mechanics and other marine industry=
people, I did partially go against the common wisdom of no grease, I put l=
ewmar gear Grease (winch rebuild Grease) in the post, since it's known for =
plastic compatibility and doesn't
gunk & clog up. TIme will tell if I regret doing it, but so far =
it made a huge (and I mean really huge) difference in the wheel.  =
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<div>From: Jerry Black <jcblack099@aol.com> </div>
<div>Date: 6/25/19 10:05 AM (GMT-05:00) </div>
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<div>Cc: Brian Higgins <brian@sailingit.com> </div>
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<div style=3D"color:black; font:10pt arial">Have Dawn, will lube. Thanks, t=
he zerc fitting fooled me into thinking grease ws the answer.
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<div>Jerry Black</div>
<div>Pelirrojas<br>
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e is likely some corrosion and pitting on the rudder post that may be a fac=
tor. I can=92t say if you have a worn bearing , but we had a similar proble=
m that was just swelling ad Bob described.
On Pachyderm, I lubricate the rudder post around the rudder cap in the coc=
kpit and into the top of the tube under the quadrant with dawn dish soap so=
that it oozes down the post and into the bushing. I have a flexible straw =
e-taped onto the bottle so I can
reach past the quadrant by crawling in through the lazarette. Our old boat=
yard had lubricated it with grease one year and caused the nylon bushings t=
o swell and the rudder post bound and squeaked very badly, especially under=
load. Letting the dish soap pour
down and some rinsing with a hose seemed to remove the grease and it hasn=
=92t been a problem since. It still squeaks slightly under load but I haven=
=92t soaped it yet this season. The bushings are designed to be self-lubric=
ating. I=92m not sure if my picture will
come through on the discussion list, But it shows the straw taped to the d=
awn soap bottle needed to get soap in past the quadrant..</span></div>
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