[MWForum]KO's adding to scrolling text
Jeff Knope
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Tue, 3 Aug 2004 18:25:08 -0700
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KO - I didn't mean don't ask any more questions. For that particular =
problem I foresee you should be able to figure out how to make the =
necessary adjustments. By all means, ask whatever you want!=20
I suggest you post your project-in-progress to the Forum. Maybe with a =
little written description of what you're trying to do. There are many =
other Forum members who will likely have good ideas or suggestions.
Regards, --Jeff
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "KO emxe" <koemxe@yahoo.com>
To: <mwforum@lists.mathcats.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MWForum]KO's adding to scrolling text
> I'll try, Jeff, but I'm making a very complicated
> program, and I still just might need some help at
> times. Thanks for your help, though, it's just what I
> need.
> -Thanks!
> --- Jeff Knope <jknope@asis.com> wrote:
>=20
> > Hi KO,
> >=20
> > Yes, that too can be done. Try the following code
> > lines instead of set "text1 "text answer in to
> > change.text:
> >=20
> > make "existing get "text1 "text
> > set "text1 "text (se :existing " answer)
> >=20
> > You might want to change the button instruction and
> > the procedure name to add.to.text.=20
> >=20
> > --Jeff
> >=20
> > P.S.: I'm trying to learn how to do this more like
> > how Daniel helps people, with just gentle nudges in
> > the right direction, leaving much undone for some
> > serious digging on your part. This case seemed hard
> > to do that with, because of the use of some pretty
> > obscure techniques.
> >=20
> > One thing I foresee is if your application will have
> > many such text additions, it will soon run out of
> > vertical space to accomodate long bodies of text. If
> > and when this happens, you figure out how to fix
> > that, okay?
> >=20
> >=20
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "KO emxe" <koemxe@yahoo.com>
> > To: <mwforum@lists.mathcats.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MWForum]KO's changing, scrolling text
> >=20
> >=20
> > > That's great! But I still have a question... could
> > I
> > > do it without erasing the other text... just put
> > more
> > > text in it?
> > > --- Jeff Knope <jknope@asis.com> wrote:
> > >=20
> > > > Hi KO -
> > > >=20
> > > > You wrote:=20
> > > >=20
> > > > Actually, I'm confused. Can you send me an
> > example
> > > > of
> > > > what you're talking about... like a Microworlds
> > > > project that does just that?
> > > >=20
> > > > I assume by "just that" you are referring to my
> > > > reference to being able do the work "off-stage"
> > to
> > > > make a seamless appearance. The attached project
> > > > shows how to do that.
> > > >=20
> > > > The first key to doing this is when MW is first
> > > > loaded, before you do anything else, you issue a
> > > > newprojectsize [x y] command from command
> > center.
> > > > Give the project size greater than the display
> > area.
> > > > In this case, I used [744 700]. This gives an
> > the
> > > > "off-stage" space to work in. If you use the
> > > > vertical scroll bar you will discover a textbox
> > > > hidden under the command center. We can issue
> > > > commands to this textbox for it to become opaque
> > so
> > > > we can write in it, then become transparent so
> > we
> > > > can stamp it, etc., all under program control
> > (in to
> > > > change.text).
> > > >=20
> > > > Then the snaparea command is used to move the
> > > > stamped text to the shapetable position that is
> > > > being used by the scrolling turtle, thus
> > changing
> > > > the content of the scrolling text.
> > > >=20
> > > > I have no idea the context of your questions.
> > I've
> > > > used a question box to provide a source for the
> > > > revised text. But of course, you may get the new
> > > > text from any source that suits your purposes.
> > > >=20
> > > > Hope this helps...
> > > >=20
> > > > Good Luck, --Jeff
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream
> > > name=3Dscroll text 3.mw2
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > KO! Whew! That hurt!!!!!!!!
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
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> KO! Whew! That hurt!!!!!!!!
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>KO - I didn't mean don't ask any more =
questions.=20
For that particular problem I foresee you should be able to figure out =
how to=20
make the necessary adjustments. By all means, ask whatever you =
want!=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I suggest you post your =
project-in-progress to the=20
Forum. Maybe with a little written description of what you're trying to =
do.=20
There are many other Forum members who will likely have good =
ideas or=20
suggestions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards, --Jeff</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "KO emxe" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:koemxe@yahoo.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>koemxe@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: <</FONT><A=20
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size=3D2>mwforum@lists.mathcats.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:53 =
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: Re: [MWForum]KO's adding to =
scrolling=20
text</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>> I'll try, Jeff, but I'm making a very complicated<BR>> =
program,=20
and I still just might need some help at<BR>> times. Thanks for your =
help,=20
though, it's just what I<BR>> need.<BR>> -Thanks!<BR>> --- Jeff =
Knope=20
<</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:jknope@asis.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>jknope@asis.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> =
wrote:<BR>>=20
<BR>> > Hi KO,<BR>> > <BR>> > Yes, that too can be =
done. Try=20
the following code<BR>> > lines instead of set "text1 "text answer =
in=20
to<BR>> > change.text:<BR>> > <BR>> > make "existing =
get=20
"text1 "text<BR>> > set "text1 "text (se :existing " =
answer)<BR>>=20
> <BR>> > You might want to change the button instruction =
and<BR>>=20
> the procedure name to add.to.text. <BR>> > <BR>> >=20
--Jeff<BR>> > <BR>> > P.S.: I'm trying to learn how to do =
this more=20
like<BR>> > how Daniel helps people, with just gentle nudges =
in<BR>>=20
> the right direction, leaving much undone for some<BR>> > =
serious=20
digging on your part. This case seemed hard<BR>> > to do that =
with,=20
because of the use of some pretty<BR>> > obscure =
techniques.<BR>> >=20
<BR>> > One thing I foresee is if your application will =
have<BR>> >=20
many such text additions, it will soon run out of<BR>> > vertical =
space to=20
accomodate long bodies of text. If<BR>> > and when this happens, =
you=20
figure out how to fix<BR>> > that, okay?<BR>> > <BR>> =
>=20
<BR>> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: "KO emxe" =
<</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:koemxe@yahoo.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>koemxe@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>><BR>> > To:=20
<</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:mwforum@lists.mathcats.com"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>mwforum@lists.mathcats.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>><BR>>=20
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:22 PM<BR>> > Subject: Re:=20
[MWForum]KO's changing, scrolling text<BR>> > <BR>> > =
<BR>> >=20
> That's great! But I still have a question... could<BR>> > =
I<BR>>=20
> > do it without erasing the other text... just put<BR>> >=20
more<BR>> > > text in it?<BR>> > > --- Jeff Knope=20
<</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:jknope@asis.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>jknope@asis.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> =
wrote:<BR>>=20
> > <BR>> > > > Hi KO -<BR>> > > > =
<BR>> >=20
> > You wrote: <BR>> > > > <BR>> > > > =
Actually,=20
I'm confused. Can you send me an<BR>> > example<BR>> > > =
>=20
of<BR>> > > > what you're talking about... like a=20
Microworlds<BR>> > > > project that does just that?<BR>> =
>=20
> > <BR>> > > > I assume by "just that" you are =
referring to=20
my<BR>> > > > reference to being able do the work=20
"off-stage"<BR>> > to<BR>> > > > make a seamless =
appearance.=20
The attached project<BR>> > > > shows how to do =
that.<BR>> >=20
> > <BR>> > > > The first key to doing this is when MW =
is=20
first<BR>> > > > loaded, before you do anything else, you =
issue=20
a<BR>> > > > newprojectsize [x y] command from =
command<BR>> >=20
center.<BR>> > > > Give the project size greater than the=20
display<BR>> > area.<BR>> > > > In this case, I used =
[744=20
700]. This gives an<BR>> > the<BR>> > > > "off-stage" =
space to=20
work in. If you use the<BR>> > > > vertical scroll bar you =
will=20
discover a textbox<BR>> > > > hidden under the command =
center. We=20
can issue<BR>> > > > commands to this textbox for it to =
become=20
opaque<BR>> > so<BR>> > > > we can write in it, then =
become=20
transparent so<BR>> > we<BR>> > > > can stamp it, =
etc., all=20
under program control<BR>> > (in to<BR>> > > >=20
change.text).<BR>> > > > <BR>> > > > Then the =
snaparea=20
command is used to move the<BR>> > > > stamped text to the=20
shapetable position that is<BR>> > > > being used by the =
scrolling=20
turtle, thus<BR>> > changing<BR>> > > > the content of =
the=20
scrolling text.<BR>> > > > <BR>> > > > I have no =
idea=20
the context of your questions.<BR>> > I've<BR>> > > > =
used a=20
question box to provide a source for the<BR>> > > > revised =
text.=20
But of course, you may get the new<BR>> > > > text from any =
source=20
that suits your purposes.<BR>> > > > <BR>> > > > =
Hope=20
this helps...<BR>> > > > <BR>> > > > Good Luck,=20
--Jeff<BR>> > > > <BR>> > > > <BR>> > > =
<BR>> > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 =
application/octet-stream<BR>> >=20
> name=3Dscroll text 3.mw2<BR>> > > <BR>> > > =
<BR>> >=20
> <BR>> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>> > > KO! Whew! That =
hurt!!!!!!!!<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > =
<BR>>=20
> > <BR>> > > _______________________________<BR>> =
> >=20
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