[shelby research]SHELBY Research
Ed and Mary Lou Smith
shelby@lists.trolinger.com
Fri, 3 Sep 2004 15:47:38 -0500
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Hello Judy, I am looking forward to an e-mail from you. You mentioned =
THE PETTAWAY Papers. My researcher in Raleigh did direct me to that =
Library Index (or I would have never known how to get it) and I ordered =
the papers to-do with Shelby's. I have studied those and that's where I =
really began to think that Isabel's (Moses Shelby wife) maiden name was =
either Alexander of Hed/Red/or other spelling. If she is proved somehow =
as the Mother of Mary Shelby Wylie (Wiley), DAR may not care if Isabel's =
maiden name is on the supplimental application. I know DAR changed my =
Moses Shelby supplemental application to indicate by Isabel's name in =
the WIFE section as "2d". So, I hope that you or Martha Mordecai can =
tell me how/where to get that straight.
Thanks so much for your time spent on my questions. Mary Lou =
Smith Original Message -----=20
From: Judith A Trolinger=20
To: shelby@lists.trolinger.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [shelby research]SHELBY Research
Hi Mary,
Welcome to the Shelby list! I am putting together a response to your =
questions and will [also] place it on the Shelby GenForum. Thank you so =
much for sharing your data!
Here is a repeat of what I posted:
That is a terrific bit of data RE Rev War Record, for Isabel!! That =
one sure got by me.
Isabel was Moses' only wife, and as Martha stated Moses mentions his =
daughter Mary Wylie in his will. Early researchers had a tendency to =
think everyone with the same name was the same person.
One researcher went so far as to say "Moses names his 6 youngest =
children in his will, therefore this is proof he was married =
twice"...sheesh....
Nothing has come to light on Isabel's maiden name. The Rhedd or =
[sometimes Hed] came from the early [1920s] ALEXANDER researchers, and =
even then they were guessing..
Nor has anything documented come to life on Isabel being an =
Alexander-just educated guessing on Johnnie's part, as this family had =
so many Alexander connections.
One thing I do know - Isabel remarried to a James Craton/Creaton, who =
was the guardian to several of her children.
I'll have to get back to you this one-gotta dig out the records..
What I forgot to add - THE PETTAWAY Papers, located in the public =
library in Charlotte, NC, while pretty outdated and with errors, on the =
Shelbys, covers a lot on the Alexander's, and where I first came across =
mention that Isabel might have been a Hed- but they only had it as guess =
work..
Judy
At 12:12 PM 9/1/04, you wrote:
I was just notified that I could use the Shelby Research List. I =
should have first checked out the site =
http://lists.trolinger.com/mailman/listinfo/sheby. But it seems like you =
may have researched Moses Shelby and his wife Isabel, whose daughter was =
Mary Shelby Wylie (Wiley). I too have been looking for "additional =
proofs" of Moses Rev War service (for DAR supplement). Now DAR has =
approved Moses using a Grand Jury evidence of civic service that I sent =
in. I also sent in evidence that Moses Shelby was paid by Rev War ledger =
(microfilm in NC Archives) for wagon & team. And next to that entry was =
ISABEL SHELBY being paid for pork and flour. I would like to send in a =
supplemental application on Isabel S. Does anyone know her maiden name? =
Does anyone know the date and place of marriage to Moses S?.And a =
document that would prove Mary Shelby Wiley was daughter of Isabel S. On =
the marr date & place, I've read "abt 1745" and "at Hagerstown, MD". =
I've also been told about "Isabel's will". I only have the will of Moses =
Shelby and Isabel Shelby made before Moses died. What about some =
possible proof/evidence that her maiden name was "Rhedd" (I've seen =
other spellings too).=20
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Please contact me thru this SHELBY MAIL LIST if you would like to =
tell me about your research and possibly we can help each other. Thanks =
Mary Lou Smith
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hello Judy, I am looking forward to an e-mail from =
you. You=20
mentioned THE PETTAWAY Papers. My researcher in Raleigh did direct me to =
that=20
Library Index (or I would have never known how to get it) and I ordered =
the=20
papers to-do with Shelby's. I have studied those and that's where I =
really began=20
to think that Isabel's (Moses Shelby wife) maiden name was either =
Alexander of=20
Hed/Red/or other spelling. If she is proved somehow as the Mother of =
Mary Shelby=20
Wylie (Wiley), DAR may not care if Isabel's maiden name is on the =
supplimental=20
application. I know DAR changed my Moses Shelby supplemental application =
to=20
indicate by Isabel's name in the WIFE section as "2d". So, I hope that =
you or=20
Martha Mordecai can tell me how/where to get that straight.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks so much for your time spent on my=20
questions. Mary =
Lou=20
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2004 7:38=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [shelby =
research]SHELBY=20
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Mary,<BR>Welcome to the Shelby list! I am putting =
together a=20
response to your questions and will [also] place it on the Shelby =
GenForum.=20
Thank you so much for sharing your data!<BR><BR>Here is a repeat of =
what I=20
posted:<BR><BR>That is a terrific bit of data RE Rev War Record, for =
Isabel!!=20
That one sure got by me.<BR><BR>Isabel was Moses' only wife, and as =
Martha=20
stated Moses mentions his daughter Mary Wylie in his will. Early =
researchers=20
had a tendency to think everyone with the same name was the same=20
person.<BR>One researcher went so far as to say "Moses names his 6 =
youngest=20
children in his will, therefore this is proof he was married=20
twice"...sheesh....<BR><BR>Nothing has come to light on Isabel's =
maiden name.=20
The Rhedd or [sometimes Hed] came from the early [1920s] ALEXANDER=20
researchers, and even then they were guessing..<BR>Nor has anything =
documented=20
come to life on Isabel being an Alexander-just educated guessing on =
Johnnie's=20
part, as this family had so many Alexander connections.<BR><BR>One =
thing I do=20
know - Isabel remarried to a James Craton/Creaton, who was the =
guardian to=20
several of her children.<BR><BR>I'll have to get back to you this =
one-gotta=20
dig out the records..<BR><BR>What I forgot to add - THE PETTAWAY =
Papers,=20
located in the public library in Charlotte, NC, while pretty outdated =
and with=20
errors, on the Shelbys, covers a lot on the Alexander's, and where I =
first=20
came across mention that Isabel might have been a Hed- but they only =
had it as=20
guess work..<BR><BR>Judy<BR><BR><BR>At 12:12 PM 9/1/04, you wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT size=3D2>I was =
just notified=20
that I could use the Shelby Research List. I should have first =
checked out=20
the site <A=20
=
href=3D"http://lists.trolinger.com/mailman/listinfo/sheby">http://lists.t=
rolinger.com/mailman/listinfo/sheby</A>.=20
But it seems like you may have researched Moses Shelby and his wife =
Isabel,=20
whose daughter was Mary Shelby Wylie (Wiley). I too have been =
looking for=20
"additional proofs" of Moses Rev War service (for DAR supplement). =
Now DAR=20
has approved Moses using a Grand Jury evidence of civic service that =
I sent=20
in. I also sent in evidence that Moses Shelby was paid by Rev War =
ledger=20
(microfilm in NC Archives) for wagon & team. And next to that =
entry was=20
ISABEL SHELBY being paid for pork and flour. I would like to send in =
a=20
supplemental application on Isabel S. Does anyone know her maiden =
name? Does=20
anyone know the date and place of marriage to Moses S?.And a =
document that=20
would prove Mary Shelby Wiley was daughter of Isabel S. On the marr =
date=20
& place, I've read "abt 1745" and "at Hagerstown, MD". I've also =
been=20
told about "Isabel's will". I only have the will of Moses Shelby and =
Isabel=20
Shelby made before Moses died. What about some possible =
proof/evidence that=20
her maiden name was "Rhedd" (I've seen other spellings too).=20
<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Please contact me thru this =
SHELBY MAIL=20
LIST if you would like to tell me about your research and possibly =
we can=20
help each other. Thanks Mary Lou =
Smith =
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