[frers-list]Steering on the Frers 33

Tue, 16 Nov 2004 06:26:51 -0500

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Arthur,

How hard was the change over to the CDI system and is that the system that
has the drive shaft from the base of the pedestal to the rudder post?

Thanks,
Frank 

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Kelley [mailto:akelley@optonline.net]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 19:44
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Steering on the Frers 33

My 1990 Frers was delivered with an Edson cable steering system.  A previous
owner changed it over to tiller steering, and then I changed it over to a
more modern Edson CDi steering system.

Bottom line, I have the original pedestal (less compass & guard), sheaves,
cable & chain, and a 1 year old radius which mounts on the rudder post and
carries the cable.  If anyone needs parts, I'm sure we can make a deal. Hmm,
maybe I should post that on the web site!

Art
"Brilliant" #55
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From: Albert <mailto:AlbertFX@NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>  Francis X NSSC 
To: 'frers-list@lists.frers33.com' <mailto:'frers-list@lists.frers33.com'>  
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 12:00 PM
Subject: [frers-list]Steering on the Frers 33

Wanted to give everyone a heads up on the steering for the Frers 33.

Not sure about all model years but on my 1987 Frers the wheel and steering
system appears to be a product of Yacht Specialties Equipment.  That company
went out of business in 1989 and there is no longer anyone who sells those
products.  Fortunately Edson sells replacement parts for at least some of
the steering that will work.  I broke off one of the sheaves on a race two
weeks ago and contacted Edson.  They identified the replacement part below
which I purchased.  It was not an exact replacement and required that I
enlarge the opening under the pedestal along with drilling out the holes in
the replacement part.  The original holes are 6 1/2 inches on center and the
bolt holes in the replacement part were 6 inches on center.  There was
enough space to drill the holes out to the required 6 & 1/2 inches on center
so it would bolt up to the pedestal.  Edson was very helpful in identifying
exactly what piece I needed and what would work. 

A cast aluminum backing plate with or without sheaves. The current product
can be viewed on line or in a hard copy of our current catalog. It is fig.
#776AL-4AL.

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Arthur Kelley
[mailto:akelley@optonline.net]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, November =
15, 2004
19:44<br>
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frers-list@lists.frers33.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: =
[frers-list]Steering
on the Frers 33</span></font></p>

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Frers was delivered with an Edson cable steering system.&nbsp; A =
previous owner
changed it over to tiller steering, and then I changed it over to a =
more modern
Edson CDi steering system.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
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Bottom
line, I have the original pedestal (less compass &amp; guard), sheaves, =
cable
&amp; chain, and a 1 year old radius which mounts on the rudder post =
and
carries the cable.&nbsp; If anyone needs parts, I'm sure we can make a =
deal.
Hmm, maybe I should post that on the web site!<o:p></o:p>=

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everyone a
heads up on the steering for the Frers =
33.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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Not sure about all =
model
years but on my 1987 Frers the wheel and steering system appears to be =
a
product of Yacht
Specialties Equipment.&nbsp; =
That
company went out of business in 1989 and there is no longer anyone who =
sells
those products.&nbsp; =
Fortunately Edson
sells replacement parts for at least some of the steering that will =
work.&nbsp; I broke off one of the =
sheaves on a race
two weeks ago and contacted Edson.&nbsp;
They identified the replacement part below which I =
purchased.&nbsp; It was not an exact =
replacement and
required that I enlarge the opening under the pedestal along with =
drilling out
the holes in the replacement part.&nbsp;
The original holes are 6 1/2 inches on center and the bolt holes =
in the
replacement part were 6 inches on center.&nbsp;
There was enough space to drill the holes out to the required 6 =
&amp;
1/2 inches on center so it would bolt up to the pedestal.&nbsp; Edson was very helpful in =
identifying
exactly what piece I needed and what would work. <o:p></o:p>

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A cast aluminum backing plate with or =
without
sheaves. The current product can be viewed on line or in a hard copy of =
our
current catalog. It is fig.&nbsp;
#776AL-4AL.<o:p></o:p>

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