[frers-list]stay with rod rigging or switch to wire ?

Courtney Thomas frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:55:35 -0400


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Robert,

Thanks so much for the offer of rudder setup pictures, which I now 
effusively accept   :-)

I've read a general description of Carroll's rudder construction, but 
would really like a
detailed description if available, with pictures ideally....... any idea 
where this specific
information might be had.

Like another poster, my mast's upper starboard spreader tip was hit 
[previous owner] by a lawnmower.
Damn, I can't understand such carelessness  :-)
Thanks for the detailed maintenance information regarding same.

Did you happen to photograph your new rudder construction and installation ?

Cordially,

Courtney


On 10/7/2012 6:16 PM, Robert Connell wrote:
> Courtney, it is not uncommon to have problems with the spreader tips 
> on masts that do not get unstepped ever year and serviced 
> properly.Spreader enda that are taped to tightly do not breath and the 
> salt corrosion sets in and when you go to disassemble the ends the tip 
> ends either strip out or break the screws. the screws should be put 
> back inwith tel-get or similiar lubricant so the corrosion does not 
> set in.On Heartbeat our Harken furler has a wire instead of rod, for 
> cruising it is fine.I can get you pic's of how Heartbeats rudder is 
> installed. We put a new rudder in Black Hawk and it weighed 108lbs. 
> There is more putty and filler in the rudder than in the original 
> Carroll Marine specs.
> Hope this helps
>
> --- On *Sat, 10/6/12, Courtney Thomas 
> /<courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Courtney Thomas <courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net>
>     Subject: [frers-list]stay with rod rigging or switch to wire ?
>     To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
>     Date: Saturday, October 6, 2012, 2:04 PM
>
>     Do group members recommend any particular service to 'check out'
>     their rod rigging ? I presently have
>     rod but am unaware of it's history, though I'm told very little
>     use but now over 5 years old. The mast's
>     existence basically has been in storage on saw horses.
>
>     The starboard upper spreader tip has been damaged but I'm told by
>     a local welder that he can 'fix it'.
>     Thoughts ?
>
>     What's the consensus regarding wire, rod or kevlar ?
>
>     I should add that racing is not my objective but rather extensive
>     coastal cruising.
>
>     What mast paint has been durable and cost competitive ?
>
>     Any other suggestions and recommendations for a refurb would be
>     appreciated,
>
>     C.Thomas
>     ccthomas01@yahoo.com
>     <http://us.mc1612.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ccthomas01@yahoo.com>
>
>
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    Robert,<br>
    <br>
    Thanks so much for the offer of rudder setup pictures, which I now
    effusively accept &nbsp; :-)<br>
    <br>
    I've read a general description of Carroll's rudder construction,
    but would really like a<br>
    detailed description if available, with pictures ideally....... any
    idea where this specific<br>
    information might be had.<br>
    <br>
    Like another poster, my mast's upper starboard spreader tip was hit
    [previous owner] by a lawnmower.<br>
    Damn, I can't understand such carelessness&nbsp; :-)<br>
    Thanks for the detailed maintenance information regarding same.<br>
    <br>
    Did you happen to photograph your new rudder construction and
    installation ?<br>
    <br>
    Cordially,<br>
    <br>
    Courtney<br>
    <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/7/2012 6:16 PM, Robert Connell
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              <div>Courtney, it is not uncommon to have problems with
                the spreader tips on masts that do not get unstepped
                ever year and serviced properly.Spreader enda that are
                taped to tightly do not breath and the salt corrosion
                sets in and when you go to disassemble the ends the tip
                ends either strip out or break the screws. the screws
                should be put back inwith tel-get or similiar lubricant
                so the corrosion does not set in.On Heartbeat our Harken
                furler has a wire instead of rod, for cruising it is
                fine.I can get you pic's of how Heartbeats rudder is
                installed. We put a new rudder in Black Hawk and it
                weighed 108lbs. There is more putty and filler in the
                rudder than in the original Carroll Marine specs.</div>
              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div>Hope this helps<br>
                <br>
                --- On <b>Sat, 10/6/12, Courtney Thomas <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net">&lt;courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net&gt;</a></i></b>
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                Subject: [frers-list]stay with rod rigging or switch to
                wire ?<br>
                To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br>
                Date: Saturday, October 6, 2012, 2:04 PM<br>
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                <div class="plainMail">Do group members recommend any
                  particular service to 'check out' their rod rigging ?
                  I presently have<br>
                  rod but am unaware of it's history, though I'm told
                  very little use but now over 5 years old. The mast's<br>
                  existence basically has been in storage on saw horses.<br>
                  <br>
                  The starboard upper spreader tip has been damaged but
                  I'm told by a local welder that he can 'fix it'.<br>
                  Thoughts ?<br>
                  <br>
                  What's the consensus regarding wire, rod or kevlar ?<br>
                  <br>
                  I should add that racing is not my objective but
                  rather extensive coastal cruising.<br>
                  <br>
                  What mast paint has been durable and cost competitive
                  ?<br>
                  <br>
                  Any other suggestions and recommendations for a refurb
                  would be appreciated,<br>
                  <br>
                  C.Thomas<br>
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